What Is the Difference Between a European Doberman Pinscher and an American One?

I am planning on looking at a Doberman Pinscher puppy from a private seller tomorrow, and her ad says that her puppies are "Half American/Half-European" Doberman Pinschers. What does this mean? Does one breed have certain characteristics that the other one does not?

Well all Dobermans technically go back to European dogs. Basically when they are telling you that it's 50/50
it means that likely mom is n.american and the sire is european or vice versa.

Gees, this is too much to try and teach someone in such a small place icon smile What is the difference between a European Doberman Pinscher and an American one?
People will tell you that European Dobermans are healthier and N.American breeders will tell you the same thing about their dogs. I generally find the European Dobermans to be healthier.. But I also know the dogs and the pedigrees and I can trace my dogs back to the late 1800's.. So you can see what's going on and who died of what and so on…

Alot of N.American Dobermans do have the cardio problem, and there are a few dogs in certain pedigrees that you can peg as the problem.. But there are dogs from Europe who have died of cardio.. It's a Doberman thing, and you want to make sure that they are breeding away from the problem rather than breeding a litter just for a fancy pedigree..

People will tell you that European Dobermans are high strung, or aggressive, not as good with kids..I have found the entire opposite.. I have found their temperament to be more stable and very predictable.

The only Doberman that I have ever been bitten by was a N. American Doberman at a conformation handling class. She nailed me on the hand for no reason other than she was very fearful and skittish..Really had no business being there..

I find that the European Dobermans are ( and I am prejudiced so understand that ) smarter.. But I also find that they have alot more energy and drive.. They can keep you going for the first 2 years of their lives.. Always coming up with something, too smart for their own good. Kinda like the kid going thru the terrible twos.. But OMG when they get it together, you will have a dog that you will not even believe..

The N.American dobermans tend to be black/tan, rather than the gorgeous black/rust markings that the standard says they are supposed to be.. I personally love the black/rust.. I find the black/tan washed out wheaty markings to look dirty.. Pale in comparison to the brilliant rust markings. Black/rust is correct..

I have predominantly European bloodlines.. Not 50/50 not even close.. More like 80/20 European..
I have to be honest, and again this is my prejudiced opinion, I live with the dogs, but have also owned N.American dogs.. If the only dog out there was the N. American Doberman.. I would very likely get myself a nice little German Pinscher, or a Beauceron.

If you can give me a link to the pedigree you are looking at.. Or the dog's parents.. I can point out a few of the cardio dogs, or dogs that might cause problems..
Beware too there are a few people breeding albinos and they tend to like to throw around that European word cause it baffles people I think and they forget that white is a … I won't get into albino but stay away from it…

Also blue and fawn ( You mentioned it in one of your other posts ) are recognized Doberman colours.. But they do tend to have coat problems.. They are not rare, and they are not special, they are not worth more.. If anything, they should be cheaper cause you are going to spend more on keeping the dog in coat.. I have only ever seen a couple of people breeding and having blues and they had decent coats on them. Typically the Europeans are selling their blues and fawns to people in N.America so that they can say they have a European Doberman cause the Europeans don't want them.. I always get emails from European breeders over there selling a blue female or a blue male for next to nothing.. Dog is cheaper than what the flight would cost..

Tags:
This entry was posted in Doberman Pinscher Puppies and tagged . Bookmark the permalink.
  • SureKat

    I'm sure it means one of the parents has American papers and
    the other has European papers. No matter what they are still purebred. The only real deference is in America the ears are cropped for the show ring. Good luck finding a pup;^)
    References :

  • DP

    Well all Dobermans technically go back to European dogs. Basically when they are telling you that it's 50/50
    it means that likely mom is n.american and the sire is european or vice versa.

    Gees, this is too much to try and teach someone in such a small place :)
    People will tell you that European Dobermans are healthier and N.American breeders will tell you the same thing about their dogs. I generally find the European Dobermans to be healthier.. But I also know the dogs and the pedigrees and I can trace my dogs back to the late 1800's.. So you can see what's going on and who died of what and so on…

    Alot of N.American Dobermans do have the cardio problem, and there are a few dogs in certain pedigrees that you can peg as the problem.. But there are dogs from Europe who have died of cardio.. It's a Doberman thing, and you want to make sure that they are breeding away from the problem rather than breeding a litter just for a fancy pedigree..

    People will tell you that European Dobermans are high strung, or aggressive, not as good with kids..I have found the entire opposite.. I have found their temperament to be more stable and very predictable.

    The only Doberman that I have ever been bitten by was a N. American Doberman at a conformation handling class. She nailed me on the hand for no reason other than she was very fearful and skittish..Really had no business being there..

    I find that the European Dobermans are ( and I am prejudiced so understand that ) smarter.. But I also find that they have alot more energy and drive.. They can keep you going for the first 2 years of their lives.. Always coming up with something, too smart for their own good. Kinda like the kid going thru the terrible twos.. But OMG when they get it together, you will have a dog that you will not even believe..

    The N.American dobermans tend to be black/tan, rather than the gorgeous black/rust markings that the standard says they are supposed to be.. I personally love the black/rust.. I find the black/tan washed out wheaty markings to look dirty.. Pale in comparison to the brilliant rust markings. Black/rust is correct..

    I have predominantly European bloodlines.. Not 50/50 not even close.. More like 80/20 European..
    I have to be honest, and again this is my prejudiced opinion, I live with the dogs, but have also owned N.American dogs.. If the only dog out there was the N. American Doberman.. I would very likely get myself a nice little German Pinscher, or a Beauceron.

    If you can give me a link to the pedigree you are looking at.. Or the dog's parents.. I can point out a few of the cardio dogs, or dogs that might cause problems..
    Beware too there are a few people breeding albinos and they tend to like to throw around that European word cause it baffles people I think and they forget that white is a … I won't get into albino but stay away from it…

    Also blue and fawn ( You mentioned it in one of your other posts ) are recognized Doberman colours.. But they do tend to have coat problems.. They are not rare, and they are not special, they are not worth more.. If anything, they should be cheaper cause you are going to spend more on keeping the dog in coat.. I have only ever seen a couple of people breeding and having blues and they had decent coats on them. Typically the Europeans are selling their blues and fawns to people in N.America so that they can say they have a European Doberman cause the Europeans don't want them.. I always get emails from European breeders over there selling a blue female or a blue male for next to nothing.. Dog is cheaper than what the flight would cost..
    References :

  • Madame Exx

    NONE!!!!
    ***NOT*** "different breeds"!!!!

    Go READ the BREED STANDARDS!!!!

    AKC compared to FCI!!!
    MINUTE variations in ANYTHING???
    Europeans' generally prefer a SHARPER/HARDER temperament .NOT pet-related.
    References :